www.natland.info: the information website for Natland's residents and visitors

 

 

Contentious Issues

In their e-letter to the Open Forum, John and Whin Inglesfield take issue with my comment in Strange Creature In Hedgerow that the Sedgwick Road footpath is much the better for the hedgerow having been cut on both sides.  

Their contention is that the "slashing and hacking" process has so badly mauled the hedge in parts that it may never recover and that it should have been properly laid by traditional methods.

They may have a point but something had to be done as the footpath had become terribly overgrown.  It's just a pity that the non-hedged part at the southern end has not been tidied up as well.

What do you think?

Whilst on the subject of contentious issues, word has reached Natland.info that not all residents agree with the comment in the minutes of the recent Parish Council meeting concerning the proposed Holmes site development that "Light pollution is NOT a contentious issue in Natland (despite the comment in the Design and Access Statement)".  See Holmes Site Discussed.

What do you think?  Is there too much stray light pollution obscuring the night sky or is the lighting an essential part of village life?

And while we are at it, what else annoys you about modern village life?  

  • Creeping urbanisation?
  • Traffic sign clutter?
  • Irresponsible dog owners?

Why not share your thoughts on the Open Forum?

Editor, 3rd September 2010

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Lock Up Your Bikes

South Cumbria Constabulary are investigating an increase in cycle thefts and would urge the public not to leave cycles unattended and to report any suspicious activity to police on 0845 3300 247

Donna Taylor, Cumbria Police, 3rd September 2010

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Prize Draw Warning

John Fisher reports that someone has been calling door to door asking for the homeowners' names and telephone numbers and this caused some concern. Cards for a prize draw on 7th December 2010 have been handed out.

The cards mention:

KDA (UK) Trust:  There was an unflattering article in Wigan Today in January 2010 about this business and their prize draws.

KSC Ltd: This is registered as a vacuum cleaner sales and service company. Again, John found some unflattering comments about the Kirby Service Centre.

PSGD: no information has been found about the administrator of the draw. The intials appear on the KDA Winners website but only in the South African section and the address given appears to be a private terraced house in Mirfield, West Yorkshire.

Anyone providing personal details in response to these calls should be aware that they are likely to be contacted with "an invitation to receive a gift for watching a demonstration of a Complete Homecare System..... in the comfort and convenience of your own home".

Editor, 2nd September 2010

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Scrapbook 2 #05
Reaping For Victory

The Westmorland Gazette of 17th August 1940 carried this photograph and text

Harvesting in Natland Park

The binder reaping for victory at Natland Park, near Kendal

Reproduced with the kind permission of The Westmorland Gazette

The photo below is Judith (ex Kendall) Slater's from about the same time.

For more items of Natland of yesteryear, see From the Scrapbook and Scrapbook 2

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Arrest on Helm

Crossing Helm to take my wife to the station at around 8 a.m. this morning, I noticed a parked police car and wondered what was going on?

Returning over Helm, I followed a Police CCTV van which then stopped by the parked car, whereupon a young man in handcuffs was transferred into the van.

After the van drove off in the direction of Kendal, I asked the driver of the police car "What was the story?"  She apologised and said that she was unable to comment.

Don Shore, 1st September 2010

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Holmes Site Discussed

The minutes of the Special Council Meetingon 23rd August to consider the development plan for the Holmes of Natland Sedgwick Road site can be seen by clicking on Minutes.

Editor, 1st September 2010

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Cormorants on the Kent

I was walking with my wife down at the river on Monday morning and noticed a cormorant standing on a rock looking out for food. It then proceeded to jump into the river and then disappear under the water.

I'm not sure how common this bird is around here, but I managed to get a couple of photos of it on my iPhone (attached).

John Johnstone, 1st September 2010
Click on the photos for a fuller picture

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Happy Days on the Canal 2

I read Brian's article Happy Days on the Canal with interest. I, too, can recall there being fish up to end of the stretch down Hawes Lane. My sister Geraldine used to take me for walks down there, in particular there was a wood we called "Bluebell Wood" on the west side of the canal which used to have literally millions of bluebells.

When I got to the age of 12 or13, my cousin Martin and I used to cycle from home to Stainton to where the canal now starts. Complete with rucksack full of sandwiches, pop, fishing tackle, selection of worms from Mr Dodgson's manure heap at Natland Hall, and even a few maggots from recently departed hedgehogs we would pass on our way there. Times were hard then!

No restrictions on when you got home, no mobile phones to bother you, parents were unworried as to who you might come across, what good times they were. And the fishing was brilliant..

Good times indeed!

Steve Sharpe, 1st September 2010

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Your Heath Service Needs You

You may be aware that the University Hospitals of Morecambe Bay (UHMB) National Health Service Trust has been working hard to achieve Foundation Trust status.

This process has been affected by the change of government although they still hope to achieve this status later this year.

Paul Brown, who is a shadow governor of the UHMB Foundation Trust, advises Natlanders that your health service needs you. You can join the UHMB Trust, it's free and it gives you and yours the opportunity for input to the governance of the Morecambe Bay hospitals, including the Westmorland General, your local hospital.

Click on the picture to download the explanatory leaflet and application form.

He adds that a public meeting is to be held in Kendal by South Lakes Health Action to keep people informed as to what is happening. Paul has also provided a précis of the Government White Paper: Liberating the NHS.

The Future of Health Care in the South Lakes

South Lakes Health Action invites You to a Public Meeting
7 p.m. Thursday 9th September at Kendal Town Hall

Speakers:

Tim Farron, MP for Westmorland and Lonsdale:
The White Paper: the Coalition View,
a Personal View and Opportunities Locally

Dr Hugh Reeve, Leader of Local GP Consortium:
A GP's Perspective on the Local Provision of Services

John Kaye, Shadow Governor, UHMB NHS Trust:
Whose Trust is it Anyway?

Followed by Questions and Answers, chaired by Dr Colin Wilkinson

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St Mark's Parish News

The new edition of St Mark's Parish News is now available in the church, price 50p
or it can be ordered from Peter Crossley on 01539 734835.

This includes:

  • Hasn't September come around quickly by Martin Jayne
  • The Helm Group Worshipping together
  • Natland Parish Council Summary
  • Appeal for Pakistan
  • A prayer for deliverance from the Christian Aid Website
  • Ethical Investment- Does Social outweigh Financial Return?
  • The Listed Places of Worship Grant Scheme
  • St Mark's Church History Exhition
  • Plus details of all Church Services and Events this month

Old editions of St Mark's News can now be downloaded from the Church's dedicated page: St Mark's Church.

St Mark's Church Centenary 1910 - 2010
For more information about St Mark's Church Centenary 2010
see
Centenary Celebrations.

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Natland Weather Report 2010

August was yet another month with lower temperatures than usual. Global cooling seems to have taken over!  Rainfall a bit lower than average so good for the visitors

Summary of the Month

 2010

2009

Average Temperature at 8 a.m. °C

12.6

13.1

Rainfall in inches

3.4

5.7

 

Summary of the Year

January was quite dry with just one very wet day on the 16th. We had some snow mainly during the first week. The main feature of the weather was the freezing temperatures, the coldest average I have recorded for January by 2 degrees! Some years it has been over 5 degrees. Last year was low at 2.5 degrees, so perhaps it is the start of a mini ice age!

February was another exceptionally cold month; the first time I have recorded an average of zero!  It was, however, fairly dry with a couple of snowfalls.

March was another cold month with a short spell of warmer weather near the end before winter returned. The warmer period was due to a westerly wind which brought rain after a very dry fortnight.

April started cold but, towards the end of the month, it started to feel more Spring-like.
It was very dry with recordable rain falling on only ten days.

There was a very cold spell early in May, when I was away, so the average temperature should be a bit lower. Rainfall was very low with most of it falling in the last few days.

June was yet another dry month, the rain on 28th / 29th being the first for 15 days.
The latter part of the month was very warm.

The drought is over! We had several days in July when over an inch of rain fell. It is interesting to note that the 12 months to the end of July produced 53 inches of rain. This is about normal so, despite the dry spell, it has averaged out.

 Statistics and comment kindly supplied by John Dobson

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Natland.info Update

August has generally been a quiet month for Natland.info but not this year.  The number of visitors to this website in the month was a record 1,730, no doubt helped by the fact that there were seven separate Update Alerts.

One change to the website may have gone unnoticed- the Features page has been redesigned to make it easier to find those otherwise potentially difficult to find special topic pages.

The discussion on High Speed Broadband has had an unexpected spin-off benefit. Following an e-mail from one Natlander about the Kencomp Radnet service having seemingly got faster, I went to my normal speed test site, Think Broadband, and discovered that they now offer a program, ttbmeter, that runs on your computer in background and monitors your broadband usage for you continuously, thereby providing you with periodic statistics of both speeds and quantum of useage.  First impressions are that it could be very useful in keeping tabs on actual speeds experienced.

 Editor, 1st September 2010

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Log of visitors to the Natland.info News page:

 

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If there is anything that you think we could do better or if there are particular ideas or suggestions that you would like us to explore, do get in touch. The simplest way is to click on the link to send me an .

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Broadband Confusion 3

Richard Hewlett has provided more information about the Broadband Confusion.  He told Natland.info that when the trench was being dug past his house on Oxenholme Lane, he asked the BT workmen what was going on?  He was informed that the previous government had decided that every school should have fibre optic high speed broadband. He asked if it meant that the village would benefit?  The answer was that the cable was big enough to serve the whole village but there was not the remotest chance that this would happen.  What was more likely was that a copper cable would be run to Natland from the junction box at Murley Moss.

If correct, this would seem a sub-optimum yet more expensive solution!

Editor, 26th August 2010

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Scrapbook 2 #04
The Natland Park Farm Fire

On 1st August 1937 there was a fire at Natland Park Farm which became the subject of a Westmorland Gazette article:

NATLAND FARM FIRE
100 Tons of Hay Destroyed

Damage estimated at several hundreds of pounds was done by a fire at Natland Park Farm, on Sunday, which destroyed about 100 tons of this year's hay.

About 5:20 a.m., a maid in the employ of Cannon E. J. Miller, vicar of Natland, saw the flames whilst looking through a window of the vicarage, and she informed  Cannon Miller who telephoned to Kendal Borough Police and summoned the Fire Brigade.

In charge of the Chief Constable (Mr. P. O'Neill), the Brigade turned out immediately and on arrival found that the nearest water supply was the Kendal - Lancaster canal, which was half a mile below the farm.  Four policemen were taken out to assist the Brigade in laying the 2,460 feet of hose.

The roof of the barn, which contained about 100 tons of hay, had fallen in, and there was a danger of adjoining buildings becoming involved.  The Brigade concentrated on preventing the flames from spreading, and their efforts met with success.

The task of the firemen was made more difficult by the heat of the sun during the whole of the 12 hours that they were engaged.  The firemen were forced to abandon their uniform, and stripped off to the waist.

Two carts and a number of agricultural implement, which included a reaper, seed roller and cake crusher, were destroyed.

In all, the firemen played over 36,000 gallons of water on to the fire.  Part of a building containing about 25 tons of hay had to be pulled down and the contents removed.

Article reproduced with the kind permission of The Westmorland Gazette
Thanks to Judith Slater for the photos.

For more items of Natland of yesteryear, see From the Scrapbook and Scrapbook 2

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The Train Approaching Platform 2

Standing on Oxenholme Station, Martyn Hill risked arrest for being involved with an act of terrorism when daring to take this photo of 6233 Duchess of Sutherland as she came to a halt at platform 2 on Saturday.  

She stayed for just a few minutes before resuming her journey northwards with the Cumbrian Mountain Express.

Martyn wonders when a steam engine last made a scheduled stop at the station?

Meanwhile, Pat Williams advises the following anticipate steam visits:

Saturday August 28th: 46201 Princess Elizabeth departs from Crewe northbound and passes through Oxenholme at 10:41 a.m. on its way to Carlisle, returning via the Settle and Carlisle line.

Friday 3rd September: The West Highlander (day 1) 45690 Leander will be north bound and is scheduled for watering at Oxenholme from 10:03 to 10:35 a.m..

Monday 6th of September: The West Highlander (day 4)  45690 Leander will be south bound around 16:20 p.m..

Click on Steam for Natland.info's locomotive archive.

Editor, 25th August 2010

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Strange Creature In Hedgerow

The enclosed footpath along Sedgwick Road (opposite the now being dismantled Holmes of Natland site) is much the better for the hedgerows having been cut on both sides.

However, on Sunday, there was a rather strange creature to be seen on the hedge.

The purple snail, shown in the photo, had climbed onto the top of the hedge.  Let's hope it finds its proper home soon!

Editor, 22nd August 2010

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The Unique Station Cottages

The former Mayor of Kendal, John Bateson, recently wrote to the Open Forum in response to a query from Denise Fitzpatrick, providing more information on the Station Cottages at Oxenholme.  

John, who had an article about the Oxenholme railway cottages published in the Westmorland Gazette in November 2009 under the title A railway village with remarkable bonds, advised that the main buildings at Oxenholme Station were erected c1850. They comprised five cottages of which three were two storey houses and two were upstairs flats.

Born in Oxenholme and a primary school pupil in Natland, John is the son of a railwayman. He has made a study of Railway Stations and thinks that these cottages may well be unique in England as he has found no other examples of a series of cottages being attached to a station building.

Oxenholme station with cottages

Reproduced with the kind permission of
The Westmorland Gazette

He adds that many stations, especially rural ones, did have the Station Master's House as the main building - these still survive at Milnthorpe and Burton - long after the closure of the stations.

John thinks that the Oxenholme Station Master may have lived in the combined 3 & 4 but soon moved to the Glen, where he remained until the building of Natland Terrace in 1896/7 after which the station cottages would be regarded as the poorer (and cheaper) accommodation. The Station Master's house is the larger property at the end of the first block of Natland Terrace.    

The Station cottages

Of the Station Cottages, in recent years only 4 & 5 have been occupied as housing, 2 & 3 were converted into offices but are now empty and No.1 has been derelict since about 1939.

Editor, 21st August 2010

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Broadband Confusion 2

Further to the recent item High Speed Broadband ConfusionSarah Roberts wonders if Keith Jackson's comment on the BT lines entering Natland via Helm Lane refers just to those on the Sedgwick exchange and whether the gateway for those in the village on the Kendal exchange is different?

Martin Tetlow reports that the BT men putting the cable down Oxenholme Lane told him that they had connected to the main large optic cable that runs to the hospital and that this is now an extension from there.

Can anyone add anything further about the prospect of high speed broadband in Natland?

Editor, 21st August 2010

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Gone But Not Forgotten

George Wenman (remember George's Story ?) reminisced about the lost horse chestnut tree at Appletree, formerly St Mark's Children's Home, that was reported in the item Conker Tree Gone.  George wrote to Natland.info saying:

What a shame.  The boys from St Marks must have had thousands of conkers from that tree, a lot of them brought down by throwing sticks up into the tree.

Having acquired them, a horse shoe nail from the Smithy on the way to school was ideal for driving a hole through the centre.  As I remember we didn't have a preference for bootlaces or string.

We had a whole lot of fun without any thought of The Health & Safety Aspects

George Wenman, 20th August 2010

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Happy Days on the Canal

More reminisences came from Brian Nicholson, this time about the canal in Natland.

Do any of our readers remember the fishing matches which were held on Sundays on the Canal down Hawes Lane in the early 1950s?

The Canal was blocked off at the bridge and the stretch towards Larkrigg was used for competitions with anglers coming from as far as Wigan. I spent many weekends and school holidays fishing for Perch and Roach. I also had a home-made rod which I used for catching Pike of which there were quite a lot, some very big. I used to ride my bike along the towpath as far as Crooklands where the best Roach could be caught.

I remember having to buy a Iicense and carry it at all times when fishing. I used worms, bread and maggots for bait and remember my mother not being very pleased when she found a tin of maggots in the kitchen.

I also remember an older angler instructing me the skills required to catch Tench which were on certain stretches of Canal.  My mother used to gut and clean any fish I brought home and fry them for me. I made my own floats from bird feather quills or corks and painted the tops bright red. In summer time, the village lads would sit on long planks left by British Waterways and paddle along the canal towards Larkrigg.  I cannot remember anyone falling in. In winter the canal always froze over so we would all be there skating and enjoying ourselves.  When spring came we would walk the canal banks looking for Waterhen Coot and Duck nests or climb trees in Larkrigg wood if we spotted a nest.

Great times...

 Brian Nicholson, 20th August 2010

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High Speed Broadband Confusion

Martin Tetlow got quite excited recently at the prospect of high speed broadband reaching Natland.  He wrote to Natland.info:

No doubt you are aware that BT have been installing a fibre optic cable down Oxenholme Lane to the school. The workmen say that we can all have fast supply from it if we can get a transmitter on the school (especially in the evenings when school is closed).

However, Keith Jackson was less optimistic and was far from sure that the work was for BT.  He explained:.

I know that Lancaster University have their own network linking schools etc. Could it be fibre provided for them? I am pretty certain it's nothing to do with broadband access for Natland. If it were BT, then the network enters the village via Helm Lane, and not Oxenholme Lane. I would have expected any fibre provision to be delivered down Helm Lane. It sounds like whoever is providing it, it is coming from Kendal. Just because contractors advertise they work for BT, doesn't necessarily mean that that particular job is for BT.

Can anyone provide the definitive explanation of what has happened and whether Natlanders will be able to benefit?

Editor, 16th August 2010

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Princess Steps In For Duchess

For the second week running, the Duchess of Sutherland was replaced by Princess Elizabeth for the trip through Natland on Saturday morning.  Martyn Hill captured her in full flow near Sedgwick.

Pat Williams advises that Princess Elizabeth will be back on Saturday 28th August, departing from Crewe northbound and scheduled to pass through Oxenholme at 10:41 a.m..

Editor, 16th August 2010

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Name That Vicar 3

Regarding Name That Vicar 2, Steve Sharpe told Natland.info:

I am pretty certain that the vicar shown is not Rev Jenkins.

I am also fairly certain its not Eric Mann, as he was Vicar when I did my years in the choir and subsequently felt his wrath during many a sermon for opening sweets noisily, reading the "Victor", talking to my chums or nodding off!

Rev ???

Rev Marrs

Is it Reverend Marrs, vicar from 1950 - 1957 ?  
Barry Charnley thinks so but John Inglesfield disagrees.  
What do you think?

Editor, 16th August 2010

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BT Telephone Scam

Natland.info warned last year, thanks to June Tower, about a devious telephone scam of which to beware. See Telephone Scam Explained.  Cumbria Police advise us that it is still happening:

Please be aware of a very convincing scam from someone claiming to be from BT. This person called claiming to be from BT with the name John Peacock with an African accent and demanded payment of £31 or he would disconnect the line and there would be a £118 reconnection fee.

To demonstrate that he is from BT, the caller said he would disconnect the line then reconnect and call back. The recipient put the phone down then picked it up again, no dial tone and could not dial out. The caller then called back stating "Is this enough proof that I am from BT?"

The way the caller did this is when you put the phone down, the call is still connected as he has not hung up (the person who initiates the call is the only one who can terminate it), instead he put the call on mute. This means you cannot dial out as he is still on the line but you cannot hear anything. When the caller heard the phone had been put down, he simply called back.

The caller will give the BT business phone number 0800 800 152, which is the actual number for BT but this is just another way he tries to prove he is from BT.

Please be vigilant and pass this message to as many people as possible. Do not make any payments over the phone without validating the caller's information first.

If you need any more information please call Cumbria Police on 0845 33 00 247.

Luke Chandler, Cumbria Police, 14th August 2010

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Scrapbook 2 #03
1935 Natland Sports Results

The Westmorland Gazette of 8th June 1935 reported on the Natland Sports held the previous Saturday.

TENSE MOMENT AT NATLAND SPORTS

Hound Almost Caught By Express Train

RECORD CROWD

Natland's 15th annual sports, held in a field at Barrow Green, lent by Mr J. W. Huck, on Saturday, were favoured with fine weather which, together with the excellent programme of events attracted people from a wide area, the "gate" being the largest for many years.

An exciting incident occurred in the puppy trail.  Waltz Away and Coldstream were running a close race, near the railway line, where the aniseed was laid through a "cattle creep".  As Coldstream was nearing the line the Carlisle-Preston express was seen approaching.  To the surprise of the spectators Coldstream ran off the trail and on to the line.  The puppy ran down the four foot way, and it seemed certain that it would be run over, but it turned across the line and down the embankment a few seconds in front of the train.

Great interest also centred in the horse events, the gallops being a feature of the sports.

THE HOUND TRAILS

Mr S. J. Freeman started 12 runners in the puppy trail, which resulted: 1 Atkinson's Waltz Away, Broughton; 2 Gill's Coldstream, Windermere; 3 Miss H. Harrison's Harmony, Kirkby Lonsdale; 4 Fell's Faithful, Windermere; 5 Mrs Bottomley's Idle Lass, Grasmere; 6 Wilson's Ruby, Windermere.  Time 23 mins. 42 secs.

There were 26 old dogs sliped.  Result:  1 Unsworth's Joker, Kendal; 2 Stansfield's Skiddaw, Windermere; 3 Pattinson's Wild Echo, Borrowdale; 4 Wilson's Cowboy, Troutbeck; 5 Middleton's Slip Away, Burton; 6 Miss Harrison's Valentine, Kirkby Lonsdale.  Time 25 mins.

There was only a small entry for the guides race, which was to the top of Helm and back to the field.  Jack James, Kirkby Lonsdale, came out an easy winner.  In the local events, the married men's race had over 40 competitors and was run in heats.

Col. W. D. Crewdson, Helm Lodge, was president of the Sports Association, with Messrs. H Stephenson (chairman), J. W. Huck (secretary) and R. Wilson (treasurer). Members of the committee who carried out the duties of stewards were Messrs. W. Howson, J. C. Dixon, H. Howson, F, Craghill, E. Gibson, J Howson, W. Greatorex,
J. Little, F. Corrie, R. Bindloss, T. Hodgson, J. Still, F. Heap (Kendal), J. Allen,
H. Gibon and V. Reed, assisted by T. Mooney.  Messrs. H Howson and W. Greatorex were judges of the foor races, with J Wright (Kendal) time keeper.  The trailers were F. Middlebrough and A. Rawlinson.

LIST OF RESULTS

The race results were:

Mile- 1 W. R. Palmer, 2 E. Bleasdale, Carnforth.

Open gallop- 1. J. H. Edgar, 2 T. Prickett.

Pony Gallop (lady riders)- 1 J. H. Edgar, 2 M. Davies.

Half-mile- 1 J. Wilding, Ulverston; 2 W. R. Palmer, Kendal; 3 E. Bleasdale, Carnforth.

Guides race- 1 J. James, Kirkby Lonsdale ; 2 A Jones, Halton ; 3 J. S. Nelson, Stainton.

Quoits- 1 T. Hobson, Hutton Roof ; 2 J. Ellwood, Skelsmergh ; 3 T. Martindale, Skelsmergh.

Local events.- Girl's race (14 years and under)- 1 Ellen Knowles, 2 Daphne Hamilton, 3 Margaret Pennington.

Boys race, do.- 1 Kenneth Gregson, 2 John Handley, 3 Allan Burton.

Singles ladies' race- 1 F Martindale, 2 P Watts, 3 A. Clark.

Married men- 1 J. W. Nelson, 2 E Burrow, 3 L. Barwise.

Married ladies- 1 Mrs. H. Howson, Kendal; 2 Mrs. Nicholson.


Reproduced with the kind permission of
The Westmorland Gazette

For more items of Natland of yesteryear, see From the Scrapbook and Scrapbook 2

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Natlanders Targetted by Rogue Trader

At least two Natland households have, this week, been targetted by the firm mentioned in the recent Police Warning about Rogue Trading.

In one case, the caller described himself as calling from the National Crime Prevention Agency and said that as the house had a LA9 address it qualified for the installation of a security system worth £2,000 for just £1 and proposed to send someone round to survey the property.  This was described as being part of a government scheme.

In the other, to a number that is supposedly protected by the Telephone Preference Service- a fact conveniently ignored by the caller- he said he was from the Crime Research Group.  He referred to Neighbourhood Watch schemes and stressed how closely they workd with NHW and the police.  The offer was the same.  He went on to give details of the SAS Fire & Security Ltd website and telephone number 0870 760 7770.  As requested by the police in the recent item, the call has been reported to Trading Standards on 08454 04 05 06 and the spokesman asked that anyone else receiving such a cold call should do likewise.

Editor, 13th August 2010

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Conker Tree Gone

With the conker season approaching, boys and girls in Natland will be disappointed to discover that one of the village's best source of conkers exists no more.

Going!

Gone!

Clair Davies, Principal of Appletree, told Natland.info that they were very sad about it but the Horse Chesnut tree by the lane to Cracalt Farm was diseased and could have been dangerous.

Editor, 13th August 2010

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Name That Vicar 2

In Name That Vicar, we postulated that the photo might be of Reverend Michael Westropp.  

However, this conjecture has been categorically ruled out by his daughter so we are re-examining whether it might be either Reverend Jenkins or Reverend Mann.  

Can anyone advise?

Editor, 13th August 2010

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Special Parish Council Meeting

The development of the Holmes of Natland site on Sedgwick Road will be the subject of a special meeting of the Natland Parish Council in the Village Hall at 7:30 p.m. on Monday 23rd August.  See Agenda.

The plans for the "Demolition of Nursery buildings and erection of 12 houses including 4 affordable units, together with associated access works" can be seen at SL/2010/0653.

Kevin Price, Clerk to Natland Parish Council, 12th August 2010

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Scrapbook 2 #02
1935 Natland Open Sports

as advertised in the Westmorland Gazette.

PUBLIC NOTICES.

 

15th ANNUAL

NATLAND OPEN SPORTS

(Under Distinguished Patronage).

President: Lt.-Col. W. D. Crewdson

 

These SPORTS will be held at

BARROWS GREEN, NATLAND

(Main Kendal - Endmoor Bus route)

on SATURDAY, JUNE 1st, 1935

 

Hound Trail, 4-30 p.m. (under H.T.A. rules), £10.

Puppy Trails, 2-30 p.m. (under H.T.A. rules), £7.

Guides Race, £5.

Open Gallop (handicap), about 1 mile, £4 in Prizes.

Open Pony Gallop (handicap), under 14 h.h., about ¾-mile, £3.

Open Gallop (handicap), Lady Riders, about ¾-mile, £3.

One Mile Handicap Race, Half-mile Handicap Race, Quoiting at 7 yards £1 15s.  Prizes for Ladies and Children's Races (Entry Free).

 

Entry Fees:  Hound Trail and Horse Races, 2s. 6d.; other Events, 1s.

All Entries for Foot and Horse Races to be sent to the Hon. Secretary,
Mr J. W. Huck, Barrows Green, near Kendal,
not later than Wednesday, May 29th, 1935.

Entry Forms now ready.

 

First event 1-30 p.m.

Refreshments will be provided by Mr J Marshall.

 

Admission to the Field (including tax) 1s. 3d.; Children 6d.

Motors 2s. 6d.  Occupants paying ordinary Admission prices.
 Stalls and Stand 5s each.

 

DANCE in NATLAND SCHOOL

Same Date, at 7-30 p.m.

Reproduced with the kind permission of The Westmorland Gazette

Next time in Scrapbook 2:
The Results and a "tense moment" of life-endangered drama at Natland Sports.

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 Silage Trailer Overturns

These pictures show the aftermath of a group of tractors going at some speed through the village.  They were collecting silage from a field at the end of Long Meadow Lane, turning down Abbey Drive then on to Natland Park farm, I believe.

Luckily no-one was passing when the tractor in the pictures lost control on the corner of Long Meadow Lane and Abbey Drive.

Ken Petcher, 6th August 2010

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Centenary Quiz Results

A big thank you to everyone who purchased a Centenary Quiz and a special thank you to Jim Cooper, who helped sell so many. In all about 120 were sold and I received 33 back, most of them completed but a few did have some spaces.

Nobody managed to get 100%, there were a few questions that caused people problems: Mallard set the World SPEED record in 1938; Redgrave won his FIFTH gold medal not his FIRST in 2000; JFK middle name is Fitzgerald not Frederick, 1963 question.

There was one mistake on the quiz sheet which I apologise for, 1957 should have read (7, 8) not (7, 7) so answers with Sputnik followed by Launched, Liftoff, Landed were accepted

I had six entries that managed to get 99 correct so their names were put in to a bowl and the Centenary Committee members drew the three winning names out at their last meeting.

1st place: Mrs J Evans of Filby, Great Yarmouth

2nd Place: The Outhwaite Family of Natland

3rd place: Mrs J Ratcliffe of Natland

For the full set, click on Answers.

David Walker, 6th August 2010

St Mark's Church Centenary 1910 - 2010
For more information about St Mark's Church Centenary 2010
see
Centenary Celebrations.

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Rogue Trading
involving SAS Fire and Security Ltd and Crime Research UK

There has been an increase nationally in the number of older people receiving unsolicited telephone calls from a company offering the installation of security systems. Cumbria Constabulary wish to alert Neighbourhood Watch members to a company trading as
SAS Fire and Security Ltd. They also use the name Crime Research UK and carry out telephone cold calling to arrange the visits. Other names may be used.

Recipients of unsolicited calls should treat with caution calls that say or indicate they are:

  • from a company who fit security systems that are linked to the local police
  • offering only four houses in the road a free security system
  • from the National Crime Prevention Unit and giving away four free alarms in the area
  • offering monitoring alarm systems with a guaranteed response from the police
  • offer finance through First Cheshire Finance

Whilst the alarms are installed free, or for a nominal cost of £1, the ongoing maintenance costs are very high and there is a large cancellation fee.

An injunction was obtained in a Scottish court (but enforceable in England also) which prevents the company from indicating they have approval of any authorised body (Police / Government / Local authority) or describing the alarm as "free" or "gratis" or engage in aggressive commercial practice.

This company is being investigated by Scambusters - the Trading Standards Regional Fraud Unit.  All calls relating to cold call telephone calls by SAS Fire & Security Ltd or Crime Research UK should be referred to Consumer Direct on 08454 04 05 06 or contact your Neighbourhood Policing Team on 0845 33 00 247.

If you, or other person known to you, have had dealings with this company and are having problems with your contract, you should contact Graham Thompson of Scambusters on 01372 371 687 or via .

If you do not want to receive unwanted calls, you can register with the Telephone Preference Service, on line at, or by calling 0845 070 0707. This is a FREE service.

If you would like any further information, please call Cumbria Police on 0845 33 00 247.

Luke Candler, Cumbria Police, 6th August 2010

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Name That Vicar

In The Lion, the Vicar and the Page Boy we asked if anyone could name the vicar, the year or the event.  So far, thanks to the Inglesfields, we have managed to eliminate several candidates.  The vicar is thought not to be any of the Reverends Marrs, Jenkins, Mann or Stannard which leaves the Reverend Michael Westropp as the most likely candidate.

He was vicar of St Mark's Church between 1970 and 1975 which seems to fit well with the clothes and hairstyles.  

Can anyone confirm that he is the vicar in question?

Editor, 7th August 2010

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Scrapbook 2 #01
Bonny Jane and the 1935 Jubilee

As far back as the 16th century, there was a Palm Fair held every year on the Village Green in Natland. Itinerant potters would camp on the Green and the Fair could last several days with wrestling, racing, dancing and cock-fighting.  

Subsequently the Fair took place on Palm Sunday only; people would walk from Kendal and enjoy a drop of Mrs Dawson's Nut Brown Ale.  

Discontinued in 1835 or thereabouts, the Fair was commemorated in the song Bonny Jane of Natland which was written by T. Blezard and published in his book of Original Westmorland Songs in 1868,

It was sung to the tune of "Up o'er the moorlands merrily".   Unfortunately, attempts to track down that tune have, so far, proved unfruitful but, in a book entitled Some Westmorland Villages, a compilation published by The Westmorland Foundation of Women's Institutes in 1957, it is suggested that it might also be sung to the tune of "Boys and Girls Come Out To Play".

Some folk remember the song as Bonny (or Bonnie) Jean, rather than Jane, and that would rhyme rather better with green and queen. Maybe it was pronounced closer to Jean than Jane in the local accent?

The song was produced as a play in 1935 by the Women's Institute and performed on the Village Green as part of the Silver Jubilee celebrations.  Between each verse there was folk-dancing.  Christine Moore's mother, Laura Crabtree, played the role of Bonny Jane.

Bonny Jane again featured on the Village Green in June 1977, once more as part of Jubilee celebrations, this time in a parade.

This was referred to in a letter to the Westmorland Gazette from a Walter Jesson which in turn inspired a letter, quoted by Whin Inglesfield in her book, Natland and Oxenholme - The story of a Westmorland village, from a Mrs Elsie Fitzsimmons that appeared in the Westmorland Gazette of 8th July 1977.

She tells of the Natland W.I. in May 1935, of which she was then secretary, putting on "a delightful original item" on Natland Green entitled Bonnie Jane of Natland, produced by Mrs V M Feesey of Fisherflatt.  

Mrs Fitzsimmons went on to reproduce a poem that she wrote to record the event. The Westmorland Gazette, on the other hand, did not report this event, although it did describe other Jubilee celebrations in Natland:

The celebrations began with a service which was attended by the Brownies led by Miss Tamar Preston; the Girl Guides led by Miss Crewdson, the ex-Servicemen under Col. W. D. Crewdson, and a large congregation of parishioners.  A short address was given by the Rev. E. J. Millar, vicar, and Mr. Temple was at the organ.

Other activities included children's sports, in a field lent by Mr. E. Kendall, and tea. The prizes were presented by Miss Crewdson. People over 60 year of age were entertained to tea in the school and Mr J. Speed was loudly applauded when he sang an old song, "Bulls and cows," the chorus being taken up by the company.

A whist drive was held later in the evening.

The beacon on Helm was one of the best in the neighbourhood.  The pile was lit by Mrs W. D. Crewdson at 10 p.m. in the presence of a large crowd.  The rockets were fired by Mr. Miles Fothergill. The National Anthem was sung enthusiastically.

The beakers, provided by the Education Committee, were presented at the School on Friday.

The article is reproduced with the kind permission of  The Westmorland Gazette.

Other references to Bonny Jane of Natland are to be found on the map of Natland and Oxenholme by Daphne Lester (featured on the Welcome page of this website) as well as on her Natland picture exhibited at this year's Art Show.

It was also the inspiration for the appliqué Natland Palm Fair by Whin Inglesfield. that was voted Best in Show at the 2008 Natland Craft Fair.

More information about Natland Palm Fair can be found in:

Natland and Oxenholme
The story of a Westmorland village
.

Thanks for helping with the research go to John Chandler, John Inglesfield, Whin Inglesfield, Tony Kelly, Daphne Lester, and Christine Moore.  

Original Westmorland Songs by T Blezard

 

Bonny Jane of Natland

Natland Fair shall be my song,
long ago when time was young
Then a blythesome merry throng,
held Palm Fair at Natland.

Palms were round the village born,
Palms the dwellings did adorn,
Crowds assembled round the thorn,
on the green at Natland.

'Twas a blythesome sight to see,
swains and sweethearts full of glee,
Dancing round the hawthorn tree,
on the green at Natland.

Then the blythe young shepherd swains,
used to piping on the plains
Always hushing forth their strains,
at the fairs at Natland.

Then a jolly Potter race,
had a noted dwelling place,
Which they'd had from early days,
in the midst of Natland.

Then there dwelt nigh to the green,
Bonny black eyed Potter Jane,
Natland's boast and beauty's queen,
Bonny Jane of Natland.

Shepherd John, a blythesome swain,
dwelling near to Beathwaite Green,
Left his flock on Sizergh plain,
crossed the dale to Natland.

There amidst the fair and glee,
Lovely Jane he chanced to see
Dancing round the hawthorn tree,
on the green at Natland.

Kindly he addressed the maid,
lovingly unto her said,
Be not angry nor afraid,
Bonny Jane of Natland.

Do not, fair one frown on me,
if I sit me down by thee
Here beside the hawthorn tree,
on the green at Natland.

That depends dear sir said she,
on your own civility,
This is called the lover's tree,
on the green at Natland.

Underneath its shady boughs,
lovers oft have made their vows,
Sit you down sir if you choose,
on the green at Natland.

Coulds't thou love a shepherds life,
coulds't thou love to hear me pipe,
Wilt thou be my loving wife,
Bonny Jane of Natland.

This can't be, quoth she, kind sir,  
I must ramble here and there,
Travelling with my earthenware,
still my home is Natland.

Listen, oh listen thus said John,
I can bring my flock to roam
Round about thy darling home,
round the green at Natland.

There in peace and unity,
happy happy we shall be,
Here beside this hawthorn tree,
on the green at Natland.

Before the year had passed and gone,
Jane was married unto John
Long they dwelt beside the thorn,
on the green at Natland.

Many years they lived to see,
Natland Fair and rounds of glee,
Dancing round the hawthorn tree,
on the green at Natland.

Natland is our native place,
many of our jolly race
now have lived to end their days,
gone to rest at Natland.

 

Detail from Natland Palm Fair by Whin Inglesfield

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Third World Clothing Collection

Natlanders have, once again, been receiving leaflets from Helpmates Limited saying that they will be collecting clothing etc for sending to the third world.

To quote from John Fisher's contribution to
Open Forum 77:

Please be aware that they are a (legitimate) commercial company who sell to the third world and not a charity.

If you 'Google' their name, you will find numerous references which confirm this.

If you click on the photo of the leaflet, an enlarged and readable version will appear.  

Many of the entries found by a Google search are highly critical of Helpmates Limited and suggest that the donated garments do not find their way to the third world poor.

Editor, 4th August 2010

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Cycling Along The Danube

The first meeting of the Natland Monday Club for the 2010-11 season will be on Monday 20th September when the speaker will be Norman Godfrey.  

His subject will be "Cycling along the Danube and the Inn" - a musical journey.

Subscriptions (still remaining at £6) are now due.

Paul Singleton, 3rd August 2010

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Thick and Fast

Like the steam and smoke, the times are coming thick and fast! In addition to the already announced visit of 6233, The Duchess of Sutherland, on Saturday August 7th around 10:40 a.m., the following week (Saturday 14th) at the same time sees the return of 6201, Princess Elizabeth, northbound through Oxenholme.

Pat Williams, 3rd August 2010

A Day on The Fellsman

Meanwhile, Christine Moore had a day out on The Fellsman last week.  
She told
Natland.info:

The Fellsman (Settle to Carlisle steam train [LMS Jubilee Class 5690 "Leander" on this trip]) runs every Wednesday between 28th July and 8th September. You have to board at Lancaster at 0805 - the nearest station to Kendal. From there the train picked up passengers at Preston, Bamber Bridge, Blackburn, Clitheroe and Long Preston. We were well looked after by the voluntary staff, who supplied us with interesting literature, maps, etc. However, we are still waiting for our complimentary hot dog!  There is a buffet car, but we took a picnic to avoid wobbling up and down the many coaches - I think there were 11.

The trip is well known for its magnificent scenery - limestone peaks, deep valleys, over the "roof of England" to the 24-arched viaduct at Ribblehead - a masterpiece of Victorian engineering.

The engine had to work hard to climb to the 24-arched Ribblehead viaduct with stunning views of the three peaks before entering the very long Blea Moor Tunnel, before emerging into Dent Dale. As we approached Garsdale we saw sweeping views of Wensleydale with our engine in full flight as we climbed at 1 in 100 towards the summit of Aisgill.

Then on through the Eden Valley to Appleby, where we stopped for water and a photo opportunity. Passengers were then invited to leave for 4 hours in Appleby, or move on and instead spend two hours in Carlisle.  

After leaving Carlisle, we retraced our journey mid-afternoon, stopping once more at Appleby for water and collect those passengers who had originally left the train to sightsee there, our return giving us another opportunity to experience the beauty of the high Pennines.  We arrived back in Lancaster early evening.

For train buffs, other trains making this journey are:

  • LMS Royal Scot Class 46115 'Scots Guardsman'.
  • LMS Stanier 8F 48151
  • LMS Stanier Black Five 44932.

  Christine Moore, 3rd August 2010
Photos thanks to Mr D Rowlandson of Barrows Green

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Little Rosslyn

For a village so close to the Lake District, Natland has been strangely lacking in holiday or other visitor accommodation.  

Until now, that is!

Stephen and Julia Baker of Rosslyn, Barrows Green, have converted one of their outbuildings to form a romantic cottage for two, called Little Rosslyn.

Julia told Natland.info that, boasting lovely features throughout, Little Rosslyn has an open plan living room with designer kitchen and cosy sitting area with stairs leading to the galleried bedroom featuring a king-size bed and delightful furnishings. It makes an ideal romantic getaway and a perfect base for enjoying the peace and tranquility of the countryside, including magnificent views of the Lakeland Fells, from the cottage's private patio.

Available for weekly lets; to find out more, see Little Rosslyn.

Editor, 2nd August 2010

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Which Team? 5

In response to Which Team?, Angela Whittaker reports that all the Whittakers (Natland Vicarage) support Blackburn Rovers.   At a pinch, the children can cheer for Darlington and Sunderland, depending on where they were born, but the loudest cheers in the house are definitely for BRFC.

Dave Ball advises that his family is a Manchester City stronghold.  He goes on to wish support and success to the new occupants of The Punch Bowl.

Editor, 2nd August 2010

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200 Club Winners

The winning numbers in the recent Natland & Oxenholme Village Hall prize draws were:   

 

1st

2nd

3rd

August

103

16

113

For only £1 per month you can support the Village Hall and win the chance of a prize every month in the 200 Club draw!  To learn how you can join in the fun and support your Village Hall at the same time, see 200 Club.

Midge Fairhurst, 2nd August 2010

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Magic Box Fraud

At the July Natland Parish Council Meeting, PCSO Jessica Bullock reported an attempted telephone fraud about which Natlanders need to be aware.  She subsequently told Natland.info:

I reported on an incident involving an elderly female who received a call from a "company" stating that because she was elderly she was entitled to a "Magic Box" which would lower her electricity bills.  The lady passed her bank details to the person on the end of the phone but soon after realised she shouldn't have done that.  When she tried to re-contact the company on the number they left her ,the number was non existent.  The lady contacted her bank to inform them and stop any pending transactions.  It was apparent that there was an attempt being made to withdraw funds.

So my message is to remind residents not to give bank details and also pass this on to any vulnerable elderly people they know.  

The potential fraud was not electrical itself, but the attempt to get money from the account.  These criminals will for example say that an item would cost £10 but in fact try to take £100 and lot more in some cases from the account.

There is such a thing as a magic box and it does lower electricity readings - but it is illegal.  I doubt the person on the phone to lady would have even sent her anything, merely taken funds from her account.

Jessica Bullock, 2nd August 2010

Whilst on the subject of scams, a Natlander was phoned today with someone purporting to be from Microsoft, trying to hack into her bank account as per the scam mentioned in Natland.info Update.  Editor. 3rd August 2010

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Introducing Scrapbook 2

Coming soon, Scrapbook 2 is Natland.info's second collection of old photgraphs and other items of memorabilia.

The first, From the Scrapbook, is a "trip down memory lane" that was triggered by Natland.info being passed a number of old photographs.  It then developed into a series of anecdotes and reminiscences, illustrated by photographs of Natland of yesteryear.

Scrapbook 2 will continue in a similar manner, merging photos kindly donated by Philip Ball, Alan Brown, Barry Charnley, Daphne Lester, Billy Moffat, Judith Slater, David Tatham, and others into a broadly chronological record of the changing, and sometimes unchanging, life of villagers in Natland.

If you have any tales to tell about times gone by in Natland or old photographs or other such old material, do get in touch with Natland.info.

Don't worry about having to write things down or converting photos to electronic format,
we will do that it for you.

Why not send an to Natland.info or phone 015395 61027 and share your memories?

Editor, 2nd August 2010

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Natland.info Update

Fortunately, the year on year drop that was reported last month appears to have been a blip and the number of visitors to Natland.info in July 2010 was the second highest and well up on 2009. Indeed this is the 10th month in sucession with over 1,000 visitors to the website News page

You may remember that, some months ago, several Natlanders (me included) were telephoned by someone purporting to have identified a virus on their comupter and wanting to give them instructions on how to remebdy the situation.  The precise details varied from call to call but the gist was the same.  A fuller description of this scam has appeared on the August edition of HoaxSlayer- see Scammers pose as support workers to hijack computers.

 Editor, 1st August 2010

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St Mark's Parish News

The new edition of St Mark's Parish News is now available in the church, price 50p
or it can be ordered from Peter Crossley on 01539 734835.

This includes:

  • Dear Friends by Angela Whittaker
  • Children's Pagef
  • Natland Parish Council Summary
  • Festival of Flowers by John Chandler
  • A Grand Day Out by Martin Jayne
  • Youth News: Ablaze Under Canvas!
  • St Mark's Centenary Quiz (including answers) by David Walker
  • Plus details of all Church Services and Events this month

Old editions of St Mark's News can now be downloaded from the Church's dedicated page: St Mark's Church.

St Mark's Church Centenary 1910 - 2010
For more information about St Mark's Church Centenary 2010
see
Centenary Celebrations.

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Open Forum

Recent contributions
to the message board
include items on: 

  • Damsons For Sale
  • Sedgwick Road Hedge Cutting
  • Oxenholme Station Cottages
  • Oxenholme Rangers' Goalkeeper
  • Oxenholme Railway Cottages
  • Bulfield Family in Natland
  • Dog Fouling
  • Computer Virus Warning
  • Duke of Natland
  • Pricket Family Origins
  • Hydrangea Bushes On Offer
  • The Ghost from the Wheatsheaf
  • Old Photo requested
  • The Great Trainers Mystery
  • Helpmates Appeal
  • Natland Hall Barn

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to add your comments
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